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>> bob, that's not fair to say. >> i apologize. she's a nice lady. >> we're going to get out of here. >> thank you to greta, thank you for joining us, that was very helpful. that's it for us. see you monday. have a great weekend, everyone. "special report" is next. a huge shakeup at the top of president obama's homeland security department. just in time for a bruising debate over immigration reform. this is "special report." good evening, i'mr. janet napolitano, homeland security secretary, is quitting. mike emanuel has how big a change this will be, especially in the immigration debate, how it could effect that. we begin with chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge on today's stunner. good evening. >> reporter: source not
authorized to speak on the record tells fox news they were forced to go public after l.a. times got a jump on her decision to take the top job at university of california. secretary janet napolitano sworn in by president obama in january, 2009, is the first woman to leave the department, and after four and a half years, leaves office as the longest serving secretary of homeland security. in a statement, the president thanked the former arizona governor for her service, quote, the american people are safer and more secure thanks to janet's leadership. i've come to rely on janet's judgment and advice. republican peter king, past chairman at the house homeland security committee said napolitano was good at her job, but underutilized. >> whether it was secretary ridge or secretary chernoff, bush administration i thought had been more at the center of counterterrorism announcements and as far as investigations, while under this administration they seem to defer almost
entirely on the white house. >> reporter: while there's not been another attack on the scale of 9/11, there have been several near misses on napolitano's watch. from this car bomb in times square that failed to detonate to a plot to blow up a jet over detroit using an underwear bomb. one made it through multiple layers of security. her assessment on national television would go down as a major gaffe. >> the system worked, everyone played an important role, passengers and crew took important action. >> reporter: counter terrorism atacts, including fort hood where 13 were killed, and the boston marathon bombing where the surviving suspect is a follower of radical islam. the administration and specifically napolitano have been chastised for the terrorist threat. >> you think both from man caused and nonman caused incidents, but particularly on man caused, weapon of mass
destruction involving hazardous chemical or biological weapon is very high up on the scenes that we are seeing. >> reporter: citing presence on the ground after hurricane sandy to the border debate, the white house says the department matured on her watch. >> with secretary napolitano at the helm, we have greatly enhanced our border security, including the doubling of border patrol agents. >> reporter: secretary napolitano's depart you are may have a domino effect on the immigration debate. also key leadership vacancies at the department for immigration, border patrol and her deputy. >> thank you. what happens next for a department preparing for changes and challenges over one of the country's most divisive issues. here is chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> reporter: confirmation of a homeland security security will come as congress wrestles with immigration reform. the white house press secretary says he doesn't expect trouble.
>> i don't expect that the transition that will take place at the department will when it comes to enforcing immigration laws will become entangled in politics over legislation that has broad bipartisan support. >> reporter: yesterday, he didn't do much to convince republicans that immigration reforms will be fully enforced. >> it is propos ter us to suggest delay in implementation of provision of law is anything unusual. >> reporter: senator john mccain was more forceful. >> new or old secretary of homeland security will not have that kind of latitude, if you believe, your opposition to this law is that the government will not enforce that law, then we shouldn't pass any laws. >> reporter: instead of one massive immigration plan which the senate passed, the house is working on a series of bills to deal with border security, interior enforcements, guest workers, high tech psychiatrist.
cantor and bob goodlatte are looking on an act for the children of illegals. goodlatte signals they could get a path to citizenship. >> i and other members are open minded to the idea they should have a way to come out of the shadows, to be able to work, to have their own businesses, to pay their taxes, to travel back and forth to their home country and elsewhere. >> reporter: as house republicans take their step by step approach, leading democrats want to get moving. >> i have said to the speaker i am respectful of any way he wants to bring it to the floor, in parts or in whole or whatever it is. >> house leadership aides saying they will only have time for the border security measure before august recess. chuck schumer already called the white house to recommend a possible next homeland security secretary, new york city police commissioner ray kelly. >> more on this with the panel,
thank you. the president's top cop finished examining himself, and has released new rules today on dealing with reporters. the move by attorney general eric holder comes in light of justice department targeting of fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen. wenldal goaler on that new policy. >> reporter: attorney general holder briefed the president less than an hour, while the white house wouldn't comment before the report was released late this afternoon, in a written statement holder says department of justice is firmly committed to ensuring our nation's security and protecting the american people while at the same time safeguarding the predom of the press. collection of phone records for people that are leaking information to them. james rosen was named a possible aider, co-conspirator, though officials say there was never any intention to prosecute him. new rules appear to put reporters' phone records off
limits unless suspected of breaking the law. some would like stronger protections. the rules give news organizations a better chance of being told before hand the government intends to track their phone records to give them a chance to challenge the decision. 20 associated press lines were tracked and the company wasn't told until after the fact. ceo gary pruitt said to some extent the damage is already done. >> in some cases, government employees we once checked in with regularly will no longer speak to us by phone, and some of reluctant to meet in person. >> reporter: holder's statement calls for a media shield law. mr. obama says he supports it, but says it is not up to him. >> journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs. our focus must be on those who break the law. that's why i called on congress to pass a media shield law to guard against government overreach. >> reporter: even if congress won't pass the shield law for reporters, experts say justice
can make it clear they won't prosecute. >> it is possible even without a shield law, if you take the view that there are particularly sensitive first amendment issues that come into play whenever you look at reporters in a manner that's different from ordinary members of the public. >> reporter: ap says based on the initial read, new guidelines provide meaningful additional protections for journalists. fox news hasn't yet released a statement on the new guidelines. >> wend he will, thank you. we know where the man who leaked some of the most sensitive surveillance secrets want to claim asylum. national security correspondent jennifer griffin at the pentagon with the latest on edward snowden. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. it is the first time the world has seen edward snowden since he arrived at the moscow airport june 23rd. >> i do intend to ask for political asylum in russia. i announce today my formal acceptance of all office of support or asylum that i have
been extended and all others that may be offered in the future. >> reporter: he did not look under stress, left heartily. he appealed to the russian people. quote, i believe in the principle declared at ner emburg. individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. therefore, individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring. moscow human rights groups were allowed to join snowden. washington was not amused. >> providing a propaganda platform for mr. snowden runs contrary to previous declarations of their neutrality, and that they have no control over his presence in the airport. >> we are disappointed that russian officials and agencies facilitated this meeting today by allowing these activists and
representatives into the moscow airport's transit zone to meet with mr. snowden. despite the government's declaration of neutral tee with respect to mr. snowden. >> president obama was expected to phone vladimir putin today. we expect a readout after that is made. >> jennifer, thank you. next thursday, house lawmakers talk with a state department official who says he is beingscape goetd. he was placed on leave following state department review. he maintains he was wrongly accused for poor security conditions at the diplomatic facility in benghazi. supporters of morsi and tens of thousands protested, demanding his reinstatement. chanted anti-military slogans, called for the army chief that led the removal effort a
traitor. today's protests after a week of violence that left more than 90 dead. the pakistani teacher violated for speaking out for girls spoke at united nations today. the 16-year-old is demanding free compulsory education for every child. >> on the 9th of october, 2012 the taliban shot me on the left side of my forehead. they shot my friends, too. they thought that the bullet would silence us. but they failed. >> the youth assembly as you see here gave her a standing ovation. it was her first public speech since the attack. hillary clinton is speaking out and she doesn't come cheap. that's later in the grapevine. up next, it comes down to the jurors in the george zimmerman murder trial. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ]
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one of the most widely watched trials in years is now in the hands of the jury. george zimmerman faces a second degree murder charge in last year's shooting death of trayvon martin. the judge is allowing jurors to consider manslaughter as well. the jury has just been dismissed for the night, without a verdict. correspondent phil keating has the latest from sanford, florida. >> you can't fill in the gaps. you can connect the dots from the state attorney's office. >> reporter: george zimmerman attorney mark o'mara giving the jury one last arguments that the evidence of self defense far outweighs the state's case of murder. o'mara played a computer animation showing the fatal minutes between zimmerman and trayvon martin, it shows martin throwing the first punch, the two then wrestling on the ground and sidewalk until the fatal shot. o'mara also had the courtroom sit in absolute silence for four
minutes, the time between zimmerman's call to police and the gunshot. four minutes where o'mara suggests martin planned a surprise attack in the darkness. >> the guy that didn't go home when he had the chance to, there was a guy who decides to lie in wait, i guess plan his move, it seems, decide what he was going to do. >> reporter: trayvon martin bought skittles and a drink at a nearby 7-eleven, then walked home to his dad's girlfriend's house, when zimmerman, the neighborhood watch leader saw him as suspicious, followed him, called police. he told them threshold for murder beyond a reasonable doubt is high. o'mara carried real sized cutouts to show the size difference between zimmerman and a taller martin and his client had no choice. >> what other options did he
have? none. >> reporter: with the parents of trayvon martin and george zimmerman watching in the courtroom, o'mara finished with a heavy chunk of drama. >> that's cement. that is sidewalk. and that is not an unarmed teenager with nothing but skittles. trayvon martin may not have the defendant's blood on his hands, but george zimmerman will forever have trayvon martin's blood on his. >> reporter: the state put on a short rebuttal, after three full weeks of trial, testimony, evidence, this controversial case that split the nation went to the jury. the afternoon deliberations of the jury of six women only produced one question for the court. can we get an inventory list of all of the evidence, judge debra nelson quickly provided that to
the jury. they will return to the courthouse in seminole county 9:00 a.m. to continue deliberating. bret? >> we will follow it all here on fox. new charges against the cleveland man accused of kidnapping and holding three women for ten years. the new indictment covers the period from august of 2002 until this past may. he is charged with two counts of aggravated murder, 512 counts of kidnapping, 446 counts of rape, and several other crimes. a texas teenager who has been locked up since april over a facebook posting is out of jail tonight. officials in texas confirm an anonymous donor provided money to post a half million bond for justin carter after five months in jail. the boy says a sarcastic comment about shooting up a kindergarten was misinterpreted and he was a friend on facebook. carter's grateful parents say they could not afford to bail
him out, were concerned about his safety behind bars. if convicted on the felony charge of making terrorist threats he is facing, he looks at up to ten years in prison. we will continue to follow this story as well. still ahead, your jaw will drop when you find out what the pentagon is spending money on while civilian workers are forced to take unpaid days off. first, the eyes of texas are on state legislators over abortion. members of the american postal worker's union
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republicans in the texas senate are hoping the second time is the charm. they're debating right now a controversial abortion bill that was blocked the first time. chief political correspondent carl cameron has details. >> reporter: this time the outcome is all but certain. texas is part of a growing trend
toward increased abortion regulation and restriction in several states across the country. >> i believe from everything i read that this bill raises the standard of care in texas. >> reporter: there's been little doubt texas lawmakers tonight would approve a ban on most abortions 20 weeks after fertilization, in addition to other new requirements, including that abortion doctors have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals. texas governor rick perry eyeing a second run for president in 2016 called a special legislative session to get it signed after a democratic filibuster and screaming protesters ran out the clock two weeks ago. rick santorum that ran for the the white house in 2012 and is gearing up again traveled to texas to lend support. >> what they're doing here today is simply human decency. >> reporter: the main murder conviction of philadelphia abortionist kermit gosnell accelerated a trend of states
tightening abortions. they make clinics meet the same standard as ambulatory standards. scott walker required them to have hospital admitting privileges as well. in ohio, john kasich signed a measure requiring abortion clinics to establish agreements with emergency hospitals. north dakota, alabama, mississippi, missouri, tennessee all passed new restrictions in the last two years. lawsuits stalled implementation. pro-choice call those attempts targeted restriction of providers, trap laws. in congress, house judiciary committee approved a law banning them 20 weeks after fertilization. florida senator marco rubio mug a presidential run and lead sponsor of immigration reform has been invited by pro-life groups to sponsor senate ban on most abortions after 20 weeks, he has yet to announce a
decision. democrats say anti-abortion efforts are a war on women. a gallup poll shows little difference between the sexes on the controversial subject and the largest block, 40% of both men and women, say it should be legal in only a few circumstances. bret? >> we will have the result of the texas vote on fox. thank you. the dow posted its 25th record close of the year. s&p 500 was up 5, nasdaq took in 22. for the week, the dow up a little more than 2%. s&p 500 gained 3%, nasdaq almost 3.5. from wall street to a more modest part of town, a story about how much or how little president obama talks about the people that live there. chief washington correspondent james rosen has the surprising facts of what the president does not say about poverty. >> we are more compassionate, than a government that let's veterans sleep on the streets and families slide into poverty.
>> reporter: in 2008, when he won the presidency, the poverty rate was just over 13%. now that figure stands at just over 15%. >> hello, everybody, welcome to the white house. >> reporter: mr. obama speaks about the poor less frequently than any modern president. a new study by georgetown university center foray plied research finds that presidential statements referencing any economic, johnson, on the war on poverty mentioned the poor 84% of the time. jfk, jimmy carter, almost three-quarters of the time. most modern presidents discuss it two-thirds of the time. george herbert walker bush did so half the day, dead last in the study comes barack obama who references the poor only 26% of the time. a speech writer for george w. bush. >> i don't think he dismisses concerns of the poor, i just don't think he thinks it is a priority to address them.
the problem that president obama has may not just be a matter of rhetoric, may be a matter of policy. he doesn't have a program for the poor. >> reporter: the white house says the stimulus lifted 7 million out of poverty and eased conditions for 32 million others, and argue president obama's focus on the middle class, which georgetown finds him mentioning more frequently than all modern presidents is having the effect of reducing the underclass. >> i don't believe in trickle down in terms of lower taxes for the rich and that trickles to the poor. if you put money in the pockets of middle income people, it trickles down. you spend money, going different places, going out to eat, going on vacation, that money goes in the pockets of those that may have less than you. >> reporter: the study of presidential statements by the center for applied research grew into the large number of catholics that may run for president in 2016, the potential that may hold for renewed focus on poverty in the next cycle.
>> thank you. someone that's not living in poverty these days, hillary clinton. we'll tell you how she's raking in the cash. yes, you can really fry an egg on the sidewalk in death valley, but they don't want you doing it. an exciting grapevine coming up. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know some owls aren't that wise?
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and now some fresh pickings from the political grapevine. leaving her post, secretary of
state proved very lucrative for hillary clinton. she kept busy with public speaking, commanding reported $200,000 per speech, plus travel expenses. based on news reports of her engagements, she has given about a dozen such speeches since the first of april, and appears to have at least eight more on the docket in coming months. "the new york times" reports that clinton who is expected to run for president in 2016 is said to give reflections on her time as secretary of state, musings from her personal life, peppered with commentary on timely issues like syria and edward snowden. a speaking career path that's proven to be quite the cash cow for the clintons, since bill clinton left office in 2001, the couple has raked in a reported $100 million in speaking fees. in the time of heightened cyber security, fueled by wikileaks and edward snowden, the kremlin has a plan to keep its secrets secret. it is investing in typewriters.
a request for bids on the russian state procurement website shows it is willing to spend about $15,000 on the machines, largely made obsolete by computers. the telegraph reports they would be used to print classified documents and avoid a cyber footprint. it is hot in death valley, no surprise there, it is really hot. recent temperatures hit 128 degrees, prompting an a unusual request from park officials, stop trying to fry eggs on the sidewalk. apparently rangers are spending days picking up egg cartons and shells from visitors wanting to try it out. after a death valley employee posted a video to youtube, showing a grilling session with a sunny side up egg. the highest temperature ever recorded on earth, 134 degrees, happened in death valley, 100 years ago this week. many of the people that work
for you in the federal government took an unpaid day off today. the idea, of course, to try to save taxpayer money. correspondent dan springer has a shocking truth about where some of that saved money is being spent. >> reporter: military bases around the nation like joint place lewis-mcchord in washington state are furloughing 90% of the civilian work force every friday, starting today through the end of september. a 20% paycut for 650,000 people, including matt heinz, who with his wife, is losing $1300 a month. >> i think when this is all said and done, some people are going to lose their houses, going to be in financial ruin. >> reporter: even as civilians feel the pain, dod has money to buy land around bases to save critters. jblm received more than $12 million to help pocket gophers, while he did win air force base got 1.57 million to support tortoise habitat.
>> the department of defense is an important partner in this process, in terms of providing funding and providing the land. >> our primary mission is fighting wars and military training, like other federal agencies, we do have a requirement to support the recovery of listed species. >> reporter: the endangered species act gives the military morley way than private citizens or other government agencies. still, critics say pocket gophers aren't threatened, thriving in the midwest plains and on these artillery ranges. >> shows the government is out of control, priorities are completely out of whack. >> reporter: defense department officials maintain buying land around bases not only helps an males lessens conflicts with things over training. for those losing work and pay, it is an argument that's indefensible. at joint base lewis-mcchord, dan springer, fox news. a third person died from
injuries sustained after the crash of a jet liner at the san francisco airport saturday. we are told the victim was a female child. san francisco police confirm one of the two chinese teenagers killed was hit by a fire truck, that girl was on the ground and covered with foam sprayed by fire crews. two democratic members of congress from maine are asking the federal government for information about how fuel is transported through their state. this comes after last weekend's train disaster that officials believe killed 50 people in quebec, just north of the u.s. border. because pipelines are operating at full capacity and the u.s. is experiencing an oil boom, oil transport by rail is up 48% in the first six months of the year. supporters of keystone xl pipeline project claim they have a safer alternative. homeland security security
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relying on one thing as a so-called trigger is not the way to go. there needs to be certainty in the bill so that people know when they can legalize and then when the pathway to citizenship, earned citizenship would open up. >> i don't expect that the transition that will take place at the department will -- when it comes to enforcing immigration laws -- will become entangled in politics over legislation that has broad bipartisan support. [ inaudible ] >> i don't have specifics. obviously the secretary advised the president of her intentions, but i don't have a date for
that. i can tell you the president believes secretary napolitano has done an excellent job. >> secretary napolitano, secretary of homeland security is on the way out, headed to take the top job at university of california. we're told by a source that the administration was forced to go public with this after the "l.a. times" had that piece of the story, that she was taking over that job. it was a shock here in washington. and what are the implications? especially with immigration reform, as that debate continues on. let's bring in our panel. joan a goldberg, national review online. juan williams, and syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. >> dhs is a terrible cabinet agency to begin with, never should have been created, there's a lot of thankless jobs that napolitano apparently did fairly well, but the initial idea to form dhs was effort to more effectively fight
terrorism, and her mind set going in was to minimize, diminish, put off any notion there was a significant terrorist threat, and that was a policy that came from the white house and she acted on it ably. i thought she should have been fired after the christmas bomber where she said the system worked, somehow she's taking credit for the fact the bomb didn't go off, and wouldn't use the word terrorism, wanted to focus the existential threat to returning soldiers from abroad. it is past time she went. that said, i think it is going to be a hard job to fill. >> your magazine has come forward with, quote, analysis of her, it is not a terrorist attack, it is a man caused disaster. it is not a global war on terror, it is an overseas contingency operation, it is not the fort hood massacre, it is incidence of workplace violence. it is not a war, it is a military operation.
it is not a mandate, it is a compromise. those are phrases where you've decided to make a point of analysis there. let me turn to immigration though, juan. some people think she's key to this whole debate as it goes forward. she has said that border security is never as strong as it is now, that was a sound that people heard about not a lot of wish or pressure to get more border security there, as they were debating that. what do you think this does to that whole debate? >> well, you have to remember, she was governor of arizona, in fact, attorney general of arizona. she has some experience with this. she had a specifically strong voice in terms of saying she thought border security was now, the border was more secure than it had ever been. that antagonized some republicans on the hill who to this day have made border security the be all, end all in terms of immigration reform.
her absence therefore takes away somebody that was saying we don't really need to do more. obviously the senate has put tremendous money into doing more, that's how they got 14 votes from republicans for their bill. but ideally what you have now is a situation or opening where you could have somebody in the position who was more -- less than antagonist, less an oppositional force for republicans who want to make the case, let's go forward with more border security. >> jeff sessions, opponent of immigration reform as laid out so far said this. most significant obstacle to immigration reform remains president obama selective enforcement of the law, any selection incident rim or permanent must disavoi these aggressive nonenforcement directives or there's very little hope for successful immigration reform. charles? >> which is why i think her leaving will have no effect whatsoever on the immigration debate because it all came from above, from obama.
i say that in the same spirit of charity that jonah has evoked. she was an able and eager collaborator in that, particularly down playing the war on terror, which is particularly ironic and hypocritical, given the fact that obama at the same time was running an immense spying operation, supposed to be because of the threat of terrorists, here she was in the first year or two or three discounting it in language and in action. then again, there was the idea as you showed in that clip that what's important to immigration reform is the certainty of legalization and citizenship, but enforcement is contingency that is not important. the last item, one you mentioned from sessions, he speaks about those selective enforcements. it was obama decided, she was the one that enacted essentially an unconstitutional executive passing of the dream act, after the congress had rejected it.
did it unilaterally by executive action, which is incredibly lawless, and she pretended it was simply an exercise of her discretion in allocating her limited funds. so she was a symbol of a policy, but no matter who's there in the next instance, it is obama who runs the policy. >> just to end where we started, in the early days, lawmakers up on capitol hill, many republicans, were trying to get secretary napolitano to talk about terrorist attacks and here is one of those. >> you think about both from the man caused and non-man caused incidents, but particularly on man caused, weapon of mass destruction involving hazardous chemical or biological weapon is very high up on the scenarios that we are seeing. >> eventually would come back, jonah, to terrorist attack.
>> it is we will fight them on the beaches, a moving forthright stand against terrorism there. i think she's going to be well suited to go to university of california system. it is a nice breeding ground for political correctness where you have to speak in those kinds of terms. i agree with charles entirely on the immigration front on this, in that there are people who you could replace her with, like stephen king or someone like that, that would get the confidence of republicans, but those people would never take the job, would never get -- >> can i offer one contrary note, which is you know, under her tenure, we have had no attacks. we have been safe as americans. >> fort hood. >> she has managed this to me very well. they're now looking at people like bill bratton, ray kelly, current police chief in new york, people like that, the idea would be to try to downplay between fbi, justice, homeland security.
you have to say if you look back on her record, i think she did a pretty good job. >> her record was the underwear didn't explode. >> times square bomb didn't go off, lots of other things she had nothing to do with. we were attacked lots of times, we were just fortunate in the ineptness of our enemies. when you experience something great, you want to share it. with everyone. that's why more customers recommend verizon, america's largest 4g lte network.
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>> bret: welcome to friday lightning round. we will get to your vote irs funding in just a minute. first, we are back with the panel on the issue of reporters' guidelines and what the department of justice came out with today. the attorney general met with the president for about an hour and a half. and soon after that put out a statement. these revised guidelines will help ensure the proper balance is struck when pursuing investigations into unauthorized
disclosures. while these reforms will make a meaningful difference, there are additional protections that only congress can provide. for that reason, we continue to support the passage of media shield legislation. well, this deals with, of course, the snooping and getting the phone records of our chief washington correspondent james rosen on this one-week investigation. with that, our executive vice president of news michael clement put out this statement. the guidelines appear to be welcome steps. that said, the attorney general, justice department officials and the fbi should also take full responsibility for the illegal actions taken against fox news and james rosen. of course, you will remember he was named as an aider or coconspirator and a flight risk. we're back with the panel. these guidelines, charles? >> i think they are a marked improvement because they shift the burden of proof from the defendant as it were, the journalist to the government. so the default position is that you don't issue a subpoena that you don't
receive a search warrant, unless you prove certain stringent conditions. that's good. but the whole idea as a way to paper over what really happened in the past, the abuse of power and i would say the lying about it. either to a judge or to congress. they are talking about changes in guidelines. but it doesn't erase the effect that they have to answer for what was done, which i think was illegal. >> bret: juan? >> i think it's great that they have continue to form the news organization when they take these steps and, secondly, i think it's really important that they have some sense of who a journalist is. in the rosen case, they were acting as if this man is not a well-known person with a history of performing journalism at its highest level. so, that to me was a mistake. i'm hoping this correction is sufficient. >> bret: okay. jonah. >> yeah, when my dad was in the army, he got one piece of advice from commanding officer which is it is always better to be on the commission that says it must never happen again.
that's sort of what we are seeing here. i think it's sort of a shame that what was kept as a sort of soft rule of thumb matter of discretion has to now be -- has to be codified as a way to cover up the fact that these guys did wrong in the first place. >> bret: we should point out that i don't believe anyone with justice or the white house has reached out to james rosen and said anything to us. that's an interesting part of this as with. second topic, your vote. irs funding. and the cutting of irs funding after all the irs has been through, still under investigation. what about it, jonah? >> i think some of the sounds like punitive grandstanding kind of thing. i would much rather go for actual tax reform. but some things would make a lot of sense. one thing they are talking about on the hill is requiring that you can videotape your meetings with irs inquisitors so that they can't pull some of these games on you. >> i'm with joanna. i think this is grandstanding. i think it's sort of empty clanging of the pot here
because, you know he what, the irs isn't popular with anybody. but the fact is you need the irs in this country and why you would waste time in this effort, i don't know. you need somebody to enforce the law. you need somebody to collect our taxes and if people don't pay their taxes to tell them they are wrong. you need an irs. there is just no question about it. >> bret: the chairman of one of the committees hall rogers says accusations of political bias. errant release of personal info waste of taxpayer dollars otherwise it's working out okay. >> look, all of that is right but this is the wrong answer. cutting the budget is silly and small. this is a moment where you seize on the outrage of the public and you institute tax reform, which, among other closing loopholes, et cetera. and if you eliminate all the complexities, you weaken the arbitrary power of the bureaucrats and the irs. that's the ultimate revenge. it's the ultimate good policy.
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